Talk:Epic Rap Battles of History 51/@comment-26842383-20141209201246/@comment-98.222.132.11-20141209213204

I dunno, the beat just has that annoying pop-y sound that I don't like. It's not bad by itself, but imo it doesn't work as well for rap battles. Maybe that's just my personal preference though.

I think another reason the women raps aren't as popular is because although the burns are pretty much always good, the boasts feel like filler in the raps and they aren't as strong. They're usually kind of non-specific, more about who they are in a general sense, rather than about some particular thing or event that they were a part of that was interesting. For instance in Joan vs Miley, there's almost no references to I guess Joan's military campaigns and battles, or specific events in Miley's career, records that she holds, etc.

Palin vs Gaga doesn't really have that many boasts either, but the ones it does have are memorable in a really silly fun way. Things like killing a moose with her bare hands, and they focused mostly on the burns.

That having been said, I don't think that's a problem with women battles, but just how ERB (which has mostly male writers) writes women battles. Overall, I always get the feeling that they just sort of get through them as part of their season-ly quota. Again, I'm not saying that I think the women battles are bad, Joan vs Miley is my second favorite of them actually because it really does have really funny insults and lines. I'm just critiquing why other people feel the way they do.

There's definitely a certain amount of people who just don't like women in raps, and other people who make up dumb stuff like "women aren't historical." I think mostly though, that stuff is just people trying to find reasons not to like the rap battles, without actually knowing why they don't like them. It's actually pretty hard for one to pick out specifically why they don't like something. That's why editors exist. If things are good, then even if there are people who have biases in place, they'll be popular anyway. Things like Bieber vs Beethoven and Mozart vs Skrillex are some of the most popular ERBs.