Talk:Epic Rap Battles of History 50/@comment-6533831-20141203011128/@comment-129.252.33.1-20141203051120

My main issue with Elsa in a rap battle isn't her lack of fame. Like it or not, the sheer volume of people arguing for her and the reality that her movie grossed a billion dollars means that she's certainly far from the most obscure character used. I think that the lack of material claim does hold some serious weight, though. Out of the characters who have appeared with only a single movie for source material, well, I should say character. Napoleon Dynamite in Season One in a battle that I don't think ERB would even consider now. Besides, Napoleon v. Napoleon was a much catchier suggestion than "Elsa vs... omg i don't even care just putt elsa in battle plz." She doesn't really have a solid, well known, obvious match up like Napoleon did. And also, ERB has evolved a long way since Season One.

It is, indeed, telling that from season 3.5 on the nature of fictional characters has shifted pretty dramatically. While Grimes v. White is often cited as the "they still do little known, recent characters" example, they represented two well-established, critically and commercially successfull franchises that were dominating cable television. Additionally, television shows have lots and lots of screen time, giving more source material than virtually any movie franchies could. Goku, Superman, the Ninja Turtles, the Ghostbusters, Romeo and Juliet, and Hannibal Lecter are all comparatively old, so I think they're trying to go with older, more iconic pop culture references than anything if they must go fictional. The one exception might be the Mythbusters, who have had a respectable run in their own right and got in on the Napoleon clause: people wanted GB v MB far more than the Mythbusters in general.

Beyond that, Elsa isn't a terribly compelling or iconic character on her own. She has, like, one song of any real significance in the movie and a little bit of character development that leaves her far from the most fleshed out of heroines. Combine that with the relatively recent nature of her franchies, the lack of compelling battle suggestions, and the lack of source material and I doubt she gets in.

I could see Cinderella in a rap battle. She's older in pop culture and provides a handful of alternative sources to draw from beyond one movie, and her story has almost become a part of modern Western lore by this point. But, I think in this case that the creator of the company (Walt Disney) is far more iconic and has better battle suggestions than any of the princesses.

tl;dr Elsa is unlikely and I think any battle with her would be mediocre at best.