Talk:Epic Rap Battles of History 45/@comment-24906386-20140625093913/@comment-5264252-20140625171505

Thing is, TMNT DOES deserve to be in an ERB. They're vastly well-known and have been around long enough for sure, and I think most can agree that they're certainly more material than characters like Rick Grimes. And it's not like they are completely impossible to pull off. There have been several really-good turtle costumes made, and ERB can certainly pull off a fantastic costume considering their budget. Thing is, they don't really have many other good opponents, the only other option really being the Power Rangers, and I think that a 4-v-5 battle should be saved for another time, either for Mythbusters vs Ghostbusters (unless they make that 3-v-2 instead) or The Beatles vs One Direction. While name battles are a boring connection, yes, I do think there's a bit too much hate going into it. Leonardo Da Vinci definitely has better opponents he could face, yes, no questions asked. However, that shouldn't necessarily mean that Leo the Turtle isn't a good opponent either. Again, he's still ERB material, vastly more so than Dynamite was for his opponent or Mr. T/Mr. Rogers. And it's not like they just-so-happen to have the same names like Napoleon and Napoleon, as the turtles were named directly after the Artists in the comic canon itself, and it's a well-known fact that they were names after them. As well, that's not entirely the only connection, as I think the turtles being named after them helped popularize the artists more in modern culture, mainly Raphael and Donatello who I think were less well-known compared to Leonardo and Michelangelo. So that's still a really important historical connection right there.