Thread:TheEpicLLOYD/@comment-24116248-20131119164305

Sorry to give you your Zenteenth dumb suggestion, but...

What do you think about Hugh Hefner vs Pope Benedict. Both old, but one is conservative fighting for more censorship, against divorce and women's  rights and is completely celebate. The other is liberal, fighting against censorship, for women's rights, and is known for his polygamy.

If that is too controversal, or you don't want to offend Catholics, maybe an old Pope could be used, like the first celebate one: Gregory X 