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Fair point, Goku vs Superman 2 is still interesting to see. I do hope they redo Batman, tho

I see your point, Jobs vs Gates or Trump vs Clinton is slightly different, then. But still, factual defeat does not determine the winner of a rap battle. I'd use Alex vs Ivan as an example; in the storyline, it is a fact that Ivan defeated Alex and Frederick by killing them one by one. But regardless of that, some people think Alex won the rap battel for how lyrically amazing his lines were, or Frederick for how catchy his rhymes were. In this sense, the winner of the rap battle is different from the story the lies behind it. So I think a crusade themed rap battle can still be interesting.

 >saying that other people who weren't worthy were used is a bad argument. OK lol

 But there's also a fact that it was a hard time for women to become successful and famous. Men and women were not standing on the same starting point, and such fact makes it more outstanding how Chanel revolutionized the people's culture in society through fashion. I do not know much about Armani, so I should research him, but I'm sure that    at least recognition-wise  Chanel is more worthy.

The contradiction of Gagarin teaming up with Armstrong is much more large-scaled. Galileo might have hated Kepler personally, but Gagarin and Armstrong were Astronauts who competed under the Cold war. Space industry in the 1950-60s cannot be seperated from this background that it was realized thank to the US and Soviet hating each other.

And Armstrong, Aldrin, and Collins    may not have acheived any technological advancements, but in different aspects it advanced, or changed, at least, mankind in many significant ways. Literally. The fact that the three were safely able to land on moon gave so many hope and anticipation to the prospective of technology and mankind. They proved how mankind can now easily reach out to space, and  gave all the youths who watched them on TV the dreams to live in space someday. They became the hero to the people. That video of Armstrong landing on moon is just too famous, they are no doubt the most significant icons of the space industry. And politically it has proven the technological advancements of the US and it is not a coincidence that it was the at the dawn of a single country being the absolute leader of the global world.

It's like how Columbus is not the first to discover the continents of America, but advanced, or at least changed mankind in many significant ways.