Talk:Bruce Banner vs Bruce Jenner/@comment-25866718-20160703215940/@comment-5264252-20160704061603

Absolutely she is. Sure, the Wachowskis made The Matrix, but it's the movie that is known, not them. There are only so many directors that are as notable by name as their movies, and the Wachowskis are not one of them. The only characters related to The Matrix I can see them using would be Neo.

Caitlyn Jenner, regardless of her contributions, has the notibility. She's VERY well known. And regardless of whether or not she "became an LGBT icon simply for existing", she still is one, and is the absolute biggest icon for the trans community, whether or not she's a bad one (which I do agree she is, but regardless). Her coming out as trans helped bring the transgender community more into mainstream, gave it more recognition. She's a terrible person, something ERB failed to touch upon, but she's definitely the go-to to have been used of any transgender figures.